& : ~~ 6} 36 Jamaary 1957 Yes. Now let me ask you a question, Is your feeling about an instrumented ship bas3c on the idea that this is a appreciably less expensive way to do it altiough it is probably not quite so satisfactory as putting in a shore installation cf some kind? Is that the reason for associating a ship with this thing? My impression weald be that it would be better (end we don't know how much more expensive), as far as KARDTACK is concerned to put in the shore installation. That way you kmow you can do the instrumentation. There is a question abont whether you can get a ship released for this purose, GIBBINS: Well, there are two things, first we feel that the installation on the shiy would be less expensive than tie building of a major alpha station ard a fast photo station. Yes, but suppose you leave the alpha measurement out since you intend te leave that out anyway. GIBBINS: Excise me, I left out Woutcrs importarit optics] exeariment. He is using this optical system for reaction histery, FELT: Using which optical system? GIBBINS: The thing that they are using in Nevaca, PELT : is he going to do that from a snip? GIBEINS: Yes. They are thinking about it. We think that this is difficult, it may nov de, but if we went ashore t> build a fast photo station I kmow that ther would want to. FELT ¢ Wel., the thing is, its quite possible and its one of the things that per= haps we cen develop soma firm opinions on, that if you develop the atoll at all, the investment will be pretty heavy to begin with and the addition of cne or two major instrument stations, lets call them, would not change | it ty @ factor of two or three or something like that at all. 50056 18 Seer We would