SESSION II 71 very little equipment in Japan. This was Korean war time; 1954 was right after the Armistice, I guess, or just before it. But anyway, it was atense period. I went to Japan on the assumption that there would be fully equipped radiochemical laboratories in our military establishment, but as near as I could find they didn't exist. So I had to send samples all the way to New York to get them analyzed. DOBSON: So, when one looks at it from the Japanese point of view—and Japan is a busy country with many ports and a great deal of fishing—at least up until the time that you got there, Lauren, fish were coming in off of many boats in many ports and there were very, very few pieces of equipment in Japan that could be used for surveys? EISENBUD: Yes. Geiger counters. DOBSCN: We provided the equipment. We had some But how many ports could you inspect? EISENBUD: that right? My recollection is that there were about 16 ports. ~ 7 DONALDSON: EISENBUD: I really don't know, Merril. It wasn't any larger than this. or 14, but it wasn't very many. WARREN: ment, EISENBUD: Is It might have been 12 It wasn't a large number of ports. But you couldn't be everywhere with your single equip-~ No, but we trained the Japanese. We had, I think, some 30 pieces of equipment flown in and they were able to make measurements, Their plan was that when they found radioactive fish they would phone Toyko and I would fly down and take a look at it. DUNHAM: Maybe we should ask Lauren why he was pulled over there and what he found in the wake of Eisenbud's visits in terms of public relations problems and relations with the scientists, DONALDSON: Well, maybe we can go back to the beginning which, I guess, was March 1, 1954, During each of these test operations our group was busy in the Pacific, studying the biological effects of the radioactivity. Quite in contrast to Merril's statement, which I'm sure he didn't mean~he