72 _ DASA 2019-2 said there was no fallout~we know it just went into the ocean. This doesn't mean there isn't fallout. I'm sure you didn't mean it, Merril. It just didn't fall out on. , . EISENBUD: Land. DONALDSON: Yes. Just to clarify this one point. The fallout into the ocean in this case presents an entirely different group of spectra as compared to the fallout on the land, except for the Japanese incident—-and this is important: the Japanese get about 90 percent of their source of protein food out of the sea, so it doesn't make any difference whether it's tuna fish or clams or oysters or what not. The Japanese are greatly concerned about radiation in any form, that is, with respect to the contamination of any food that they get from the sea. You have this unique, almost hysterical background of tne Japanese people regarding radiation from their experiences during the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing, and along with that, fear of airborne contamination is almost a mania with the Japanese, One always sees them with a face mask when they have a cold, The problems of actual measuren.ent of radiation in the sea were further complicated by the question of where it went. Also there was the resistance on the part of the Task Force to understand what we felt, to shape up to their responsibilities, to actually get busy with the measurements. It wasn't until March 26th that we got the first expedition underway, that is, 26 days after the event the first expedition went into Rongelap to actually do some rather thorough surveys. Even this attempt was hampered by Task Force orders calling the destroyer back for patrol duty while ue were still on the contaminated islands. DUNHAM: Lauren, [think you ought to get back to Japan. DONALDSON: I will in just one minute, DUNHAM: I don't want to steal your afternoon thunder at this point. DONALDSON: Thelevels of radiation were in the order of magnitude of 100 curies per square meter on Ebeye [sland on March 26th, so we're talking about appreciable amounts of radiation, All right, now over to Japan,