28 DASA 2039-2 { graduated from Harvard Medical School, I never did pet through either Harvard College or MIT, both of waich I sort of indulged in. Then I war trained in neurology. While working at the Massachusetts General Huspital in neurology, [needed sume extra typing to be done and my chemist, Mary Dailey, now Mrs. Rod Irvine, said she would get somebody that would be willing to do some typing to come in the next morning at nine o'clock. So the next morning L went to my lab- oratory at nine o'clock and, to be sure, there was a young woman there but, unfortunately, you practically couldn’t see her because she vas completely enveloped in the arma of a 6'4" young man, and this was my introduction to Staff Warren and his lovely wife, Vi, who hadn't seen him for three days and found herself in his arms! { Laughter] So, this waa a very special occasion and it's been a continuing association of great joy. WARREN And it's marked us both ever since! [Laughter] FREMONT-SMITH: Then, in nevrology [ became interested in psychosomatic problemas, emotional factors influenctng physiological behavior of human beings amd animals. In 1936 [ joined the Josiah B, Macy, Jr. Foundation and became what they call a philanthropotd and thia was Feed Kocppel's term. Fred Kocppel was thefurmer president, the late president, of rhe Carnegie Corperation., He said that he felt that Foundation executives, poor lonely creatures that they are, deserve some special form of appellation and suggested they should be called philanthropoids. Why? Because. he eaid, they acted like phijanthropists but with sormebody else's money! {Laughter} So Lacted like a philanthropist with the Macy Foundation money for some twenty-four years and altogether had a very interesting tame in that relationship, A couple of things bore on the present situation, in the most unusual pusitions, (did find myself In one of them, as Staff mentioned, | was out at Bikini, and after [ came back from Hikini, through an absolute fluke which f won't have time to explain, the Macy Foundation, which already had be-n holding conferences in which I was very much interested, was asked by the Department of State, the Department of State no less, to hold a series of conferencce on human relations insights coming from psychiatry, psychology, sociology, and cultural anthropology, and on how thease might he used by the Department of State. This was a very interesting process and led nowhere in the long run because of the McCarthy era which followed not long afterwards, ‘ , t haceam nae ea aE ARRIETA REETwe en EE eAees A eryEpveeSree iSee hen NE E SF eeee iad aAte aanDOP.Rkdlee aNened