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roundtable. That brings me as close to your interest,{ think,as anything that | have personaily experienced.
BRUES:
lege.

Austin brues,

[majored in philosophy at Harvard Col-

I concentrated in internal medicine with excursions into some

of the other medical specialties in medical achool,
cancer research and clinical hematology,

[then went into

During World War U, probably not because of any particular competence but because I appeared to have guessed what was going on,
I got drawn into the Manhattan Project where I could be kept quiet!
[Laughter] [ joined the Argonne Laboratory and the staff at the University of Chicago and was mancuvered into the position of directing
biological and medical research at Argonne which [ continued to do,
for fifteen years, having promised to do it for one year: learning
that that sort of job, Ike most, became more time consuming rather
than less time consuming, with the passage of time, I retired from
that responsibility about five years ago and have gone back into research in carcinogenesis.

FREMONT-SMITH:

[I'm Frank Fremont-Smith,

Before I talk

about myself, I want to make a couple of comments. First, that [
think it'a quite remarkable and wonderful that DASA has made it
possible for us to hold these meetings and has put no restrictions
uponus, They have told us to see what we can come up with. We
could select the people to come and talk about what we as a group
felt we should talk about on this topic. And they didn't say, “Now,
don't touch that and don't do this."" They just said, “Go to it!”
I think this was, inthe firat place, a very nice compliment to this

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kind of process, to the human interaction process,

and also that it

was a compliment to DASA that ic could have the freedom of action
to give us such freedom of action.
[want to express my appreciation on that score.
Iwas eapecially pleased that Dr. Dunham, Chuck Dunham, if [
may say, emphasized some of the limitations of science in terms of
the human problems that the world faces, [think that this is a matter of utmost aignificance, and ina world in which computers and
those who know how to feed computers are taking over, it may he
worthwhile to remember that the most precious things in the world
can't be quantitated and can't be put into computers, So, we are
going to have to have some aspects of human judgment outside of quantitation enter in if we are going to have any opportunity to survive,

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