SESSION VI 329 AYRES: Yes. HEMLER: You could also take one city in the United States asa scenario. Take New York with a big population and then answer some of the questions that are in my mind. In other words, if we had one city hit like that, one area, what would be some of the psychosocial effects there? FREMONT-SMITH: And in the unhit cities, too. HEMLFR: Would it be realistic to assume, for example, that no help would come from the outside immediately—and I wonder about this—from the people unwilling tc go in? Certainly there would be military who could be ordered in, but I'm talking about people around New York. These are some of the questions that bother me. This is one small area, EISENBUD: I think this is a very good question because it makes it possible to iocus ona situation that is realistic, HEMLER: Yes. EISENBUD: That's what ['m thinking of, I think that's very worthwhile. Of course, the first thing that would happen would be that those people who were able to would want tu leave New York and there would be a tremendous wave of population leaving the city, and I suppose people in the s. .urbs would want to stay there to make sure they can hang on to what belongs to them. HEMLER: ROOT: Would they allow them to leave? Would they allow them to come in? EISEMBUD: been struck, Let's think what it would be like in a city that's just What do the streets lcok like? you've got debris. lice function? You've got fires, Do you have people civrying on any kind of po- DUNHAM: They would be trying to but not very effectively. I think New York is unusual in this in tnat it's difficult.to leave New York. EISENBUD: No. What I'm thinking of now, Chuck, is the problem created by the fact that presumabl you've got near lethal levels of fallcut. \