330 DASA 2019-2 UPTON: How big is the weapon? the nature of the burst? How far off the ground? How big is the fireball? What's EISENBUD: Let's consider one or two weapons detonated in such a way that it produces essentially complete destruction of part of the metropolitan area and fallout all over the rest of it. HEMLER: I think the type of scenario there for New York is two to three 10-MT type weapons, UPTON: How many people are left on Manhattan? to think about them at all? EISENBUD: WARREN: It could be all of them. Do you have We play games. Based on buildings? EISENBUD: We play games and we've had bombs detonated in Newark andthe Bronx andin Manhattan. It was reasonably irtsct except for the fallout. There was a lot of damage but you didn't have mass casualties on the level that you have with a direct hit. But the point is what do the strects look like. UPTON: This is basic information, and, considering how you evaluate the situation, you have to supply the concitione before you can consider them, TAYLOR: [think in some areas the streets I would visualize would be full of people running as fast as they could if they knew that the fallout would not get down to the ground for a couple of hours. AYRES: But they wouldn't know that, because nobody would know that at that time. CONARD: I think that most outside people would be scared that there's another bomb coming and they wouldn't want to do anything but get in the shelter and wait until they're sure that there would be no further attack, EISENBUD: The best situation would be where you were able to instruct your population to get into somesort of protection, and then Iask again what would the streets look like? Not everybody is going to follow the orders given to them over the radio, assuming that they hear them.