SESSION VI 291 FREMONT.SMITH: But. you see, they say the only way they can serve the country, which they know they can do, ise to get re-elected, so the most important thing to save the world ta to get re-elected, think this is a perfectly understandable rationalisation to juatily almoet any change of policy or any change at all that will get them reelected, Then they can really make the decisons, at feast urtil the next election looms up! f[ | Laught+>}j I'd like to go back ta the earlier situation. [ live an Long Island and l work in New York City, and there are a great many other people who move in and out of New York City every day who leave their familles at home in the suburbs and go into New York City and then go back to their families, Well, to face what happens in a nucioar war for people like myself te extremely difficult because you might be on the train, you might be at home where there's no possibility of shelter because Lung Island is so flat, at least on the Scauth Shore where I live, and, on the otherhand, tf you get inte New York, you've left your family and children out there where they have no hope and you have no hope of seeing them again, [tis 00 ghastly to contemplate what you would, in fact, be faced with if a bomb fell on Long Island. New York City, in the harbor, and eacn one of these gives you entirely dilferent kinds of probleme to face, that I think it's very easy, alter having become tnvolved in it and seating the children in Findergarten hiding under a table with their he-~ds up, which aleo hae its absurdity, to just put it out af mind and sav, “There's nothing we can cu about it,” I'm sure thie enters into a good many people's thinking about it, TAYLOR Lthink it's very important to distingu'eh tao tifferent kinds of hopelessness and Ethink know the kind yeu had in mend, Arthur, although ['m sot eure, One kind of hopelessness comes from the idea that no matter what we do as a country or asa worid, any kind of a nuchar war will destroy us all in some sense; will ruin us, no matter what we do, There's another kind of hopeiessness that ts the kind [ feel and that is that it's of no use for me to do something all by mys<if, and that’s very different, I'm for Civil Defense. I don't have a shelter because [ can't see how to use the sheiter if there aren't any other plans arcund my home or atound the place where [ work. [t's a little bit ke sayiag one is. against pollution of the air by automobiles and then ts given the option of spending $100 to put something of one's car that will make it completely pure, Noone will do that by himeeli because it doesn't even begin to solve the problem, That doeen't mean he's for pollution or