290 DASA 2019-2 of devastation and the dislocation that would be associated with the use of this shelter would be so great that one might just as well trust to luck as to try to take any constructive preventive action, This is a very discouraging thing. I think In general that everyone at Oak Ridge hopes somehow that the decision-makers will avert the calann ity, altiough one recognizes that it may not be up ta Washington in the last analysis to do so. So I think that this points up the feeling of hopelessness and a feeling that the individual really can exercise no meaningful ce’. country. I rer” mensions of ti eee any const: DE BOER: ‘ctive action that may prevail throughout the belleve that people are so ignorant of the di- ‘ I prefer to think that instead they don't -ourse which they can take, Are you talking about yourself now or are you talking about the community you live in? UPTON: I'm talking about the community and about people in gen- eral with whom I've discussed the probierm. ROOT: How many people here have shelters’ FREMONT-SMITH: What? ROOT: Doer anybody here have a shelter? LANGHAM: I have. EISENBUD. [ would quite agree with you except in one respect. You said that these people who give up any hope of salution beyond ‘thie point hope that their decision-makers will prevent the war in the prologue and, of course, thie ie whal we are addressing cure selvesto, But [think there have veer a couple of stripes running through the discussion in the last (vw days that are very worrisome, I think somebody raised somewhere alung the line the question of the motivation of the politicians, i think it's very depreasing that many of the columnists, as they talk about the Vietnarn war, more of leas assume that there's going to be some change in national policy because there's an election caming and that the positions that the politiclans are going to take tn the national election, on Vietnam, afe gow ing to be influenced by the fact thit they want to be re-elected. I XN think this ie terrible, MILLET: There‘s a lot of evidence for this view,