SESSIONIfl 149 DUNHAM: It's still not Known whether one-third or two-thirds comes down within severa! nundred miles of a megaton burst. EISENBUD: struct them. You can measure the doses and not have to recon- AYRES: The particle size distribution, I believe, is now much better understood than it was two years ago. DE BOER: This is an area you can't discuss very much because you get into claesified information. [ think you're really treading on thin ice now as far as that's concerned. MILLER: May 1 ask how many casualties there were in the Marshallese? CONARD: What do you mean by casualties ? MILLER: That's what { want you to tell me. FREMONT-SMITH: You want to know how many there were or a what do you mean by casualties ? WARREN: It's the qualitative rather than the quantitative defini- tion. You mean some of their white counts fall and there's no other evidence and they are nauseated and some of them had beta burns and some didn't. CONARD: Almost all of these people were affected in some way. FREMONT-SMITH: MILLER: 100 percent casualties. Yes, among the Marshallese. Casualties in Japan. But then there were Dr. Donaldson has told us that the mother of one of his students was a casualty, and Dr. Schull has told us about a mother and daughter from Osaka whose fears caused them to seek medical advice, and who were, I suppose, psychological casualties. And there may have been many more but these were just a few we happened to hear about. Il am wondering if perhaps there were not mass casualties as a result of the Bikini experience. One must think of the people around tha world, especially those in Japan, who were casualties medically, economically and/or psychologically.