BERGE:

Right, right. And did the therapist use that information

afterward?

KOHN:

Perhaps. But I believe the count wentinto the patient record.

BERGE:

Were they informed so to speak of that?...

KOHN:

I don't remember, butit's a trivial thing.

BERGE:

I know,I think actually quite a number of people did the same

kind of thing with the blood counts. That's why I was asking because we've
got such a large numberof people here whodid blood countstudies. I was
wondering how much...

KOHN:

I did not put anything into a patient, I just took a small sample

of blood and did an ordinary blood count. The amountof blood withdrawn
was no hazard.

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BERGE:

Well no. One more question. You mentioned that you first

came to UCSF as a memberof the Public Health Service. Can you describe
what you did during those times?

KOHN:

The Public Health Service in ‘49 or '50, the Public Health Service

was going to establish a clinical cancer service of their own in Bethesda, and
they were going to have a, well they thought they might have, perhapsI
should say, a large radiobiological research unit associated with it and also for
public health work. So I'd been recruited, as a person who might serve in

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