BERGE:

Isee. Isee. Okay. Well, while you were talking, I took some

notes and I was wondering if I could go back and ask you aboutthose.

KOHN:

Sure.

BERGE:

When you weretalking about your time at the Shields Warren

Radiation Lab, you mentionedthestatistical analysis of radiation therapy
treatment. Were the treatments in the various hospitals experimental, or
were they by that time already established therapies?

KOHN:

They were not experiments in the conventional sense.

BERGE:

So what wasthe necessity at that time of doing thestatistical

analysis.

KOHN:

Cure rates vary with (1) the type of cancer and (2) the stage of the

disease at which treatmentis initiated. To make comparisons between
different cancers, or different stages of cancer, it is necessary to makestatistical

comparisons. Likewise when seeking to improve the cure rate by some
changein the treatment schedule, for example, by increasing the dose by ten
percent or by giving five treatments a week instead of three.

BERGE:

Howdid they establish a dose, originally, for example, like a five

times a week? Let's say it was five times a week.

KOHN:

In the early days of radiation therapy, it was generally held,

especially by the Germanschool, that the biggest dose (tolerated) given as fast

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