this kind we need large numbers over long periods of time, large populations over long periods of time, in order to develop an understanding of the likelihood that this will change as a result of radiation. There is no way that in the short time that we have been operating that ship and in the small population we are working with, we could improve upon the averages that we are now using. Buck: May I please say something that you said in the last sentence, which was there was no way of knowing how many deaths from cancer there have ‘been, have died. I failed to translate that. [Alice continued presentation in Marshallese. ] Marshallese: You have been examining the Marshallese population for a period of 28 years, I believe. Isn't that a long enough time to make some kind of assumptions? Ray: We have been examining a very limited population of Marshallese people for that period of time and they were people who were exposed to very large doses, relative to these they were very large doses. We have a pretty good understanding of the results of that kind of exposure. But here we are talking about very much lower doses over a long period of time. There we were talking about a high dose over a short period of time and they are not comparable. Marshallese: This paper seems to indicate that the contamination of Mejit exceeds that of Utrik, and so isn't that enough for the Americans, the U.S. government, to say, to actually announce that Mejit has more contamination? They are making compensation to the Utrik population, but not to the Mejit. Robison: way. Let me try, let me try to do this, to explain why it looks this If, if we look at the radiation in the soil and in the plants at Mejit it's less than at Utrik. But the Brookhaven people have two different diets, and Brookhaven has told us that they believe that over on sg BREE wer