” Kili - Marshall Islands PRIVACY ACT MATERIAL REMOVED Meeting -” Gudiksen: As we have said earlier, the numbers in the interior are higher than at the lagoon road. Our results indicate it is entirely safe to carry on activities in the interior of the island. 7 Allen: Because I know that ERDA/AEC will give me more maps I will leave my copies with the magistrate now. (Maps were attached to the Aug. 12 Livermore report.) _: I feel if the government feels if these islands are safe then we Will return. Enyu is safe. We will return. If Bikini is not safe then the government should find us another place to settle. This community is not healthy. :¢ I wish to add on to what he has said. Our government will not force us to return or stay. It is my understanding that people here were removed from the atoll by the government. We will hear the words of the government who worry about our security and safety. We are not subject to traditional leaders. Is the government going to watch us drown or take a stand? You must understand that we feel we have a right to a decision. The government is trying to detach itself from us. Dr. Conard --- how would he know if we had not eaten breadfruit and pandanus if we live on Bikini? We will not let Dr. Conard examine us if it is true Bikini and Enyu are safe. DeBrum: I appreciate you speaking up’'and telling us your feelings about this resettlement. The government will not force you to go back. It will not abandon you. As a result of the original move there is 2a community on Kili. There are those who are attached to Kili. They were born here and they do not want to go back. The Eiders want to return. To accommodate this, people can return to Bikini or remain.on Kili. If you return to Bikini, Kili and the lands on Jaluit will continue to be of use to Bikini people. I am concerned about the feelings of the young man not to allow Dr. Conard to examine the people. Allen: Let me ask a question of the officials of ERDA/AEC--~ Office of legal services understands about the doctor. Will ERDA/AEC make it possible to have examinations by doctors of their own choosing? They might choose other American or Japanese doctors or doctors from other parts of the world. not to be examined. They might choose Would this be acceptable to ERDA/AEC? Ray: The medical program exists because we feel it is our obligation. Dr. Conard is generally accompanied by volunteer doctors from other countries. I'm sure we. welcome any help from other doctors who can work with us. The U. S. Government has no way of forcing the people to be examined or treated. I want to clarify Dr. Conard's long term program: Equipped with sensitive instruments he can find radiation in bodies before it causes any hazard. His primary reason is to find radiation before it causes.disease. If there is radiation present in the body then we send in scientists to find what the problem is and stop it before it becomes a problem. PRIVACY ACT MATERIAL RE i MOVED -19-