ee ee AGT 230 we , ph DEPARTMENT OF STATE . eave’ or? THE SECRETARY . TS / S os ; FA Af fe hy | ‘MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION WITH MR. GORDON GRAY Tuesday, October 8, 1958 - ll a.m. He talked about the organization of the work on nuclear test suspension and surprise attack, pointing out that on the basis of the record there was a committee of Dulles, McElroy and Anderson on nuclear test suspension, and one of Dulles, McElroy and Killian on surprise attack. He doubted whether Anderson, particularly in view of his present absence, was necessary on either committee, and sug- gested that the two committees be combined as Dulles, McElroy and Killian. I said this was agreeable tome. He indicated that on nuclear test Suspension there was considerable diference of opinion within the Administration on the question of permitting tests below the threshold of detection, permitting peaceful uses, and whether our agreement was contingent upon progress in other disarmament matters. [ said 1 thought all these matters had been settled by the Presidential statement which had been earlier approved. Mr. Gray said this might be so, but many people in the Government did not take it that way and he thought the issue Should be resolved. dtakae We spoke of the complications ofsurprise attick as the resuli of the missile situation. I said I doubted we would really be prepared by the first of November but that probably ways could be found for postponement without a bad public relations reaction. I pointed out that our own poSition was not yet entirely firm, and much less had we reached agreement with the British and French, and perhaps others who might compose thé Western delegation. We spoke of the functioning of the NSC. futile to go on beating over past papers. He thought it was rather He said the President had sug- gested the possibility oflimited meetings of the NSC confined to the Statutory members to discuss informally urgent matters. DECLASSIFIED Authority MR €3-4) 4 Ia Se and Private

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