- 26 . OFFICIALUSE ONLY Dr. Cantril inquirca whether it would be advantageous for cither a mombcr cf the staff or cutside consultants to visit the project er laboratory morc often, rather than evaluating the prcegram from a peper or writtcn repert, Dr. Shilling gave an unqualificd yes to this questicn - "we should make more visits.” Mr. Brown interjcctec at this point to say that with the numbcr of staff that we have, wo have approachca the limits of cur physical ability of gcttinge mere travel, The cther fact is that we arc the smalicst Division in the Commission, and we have the largest travel budgct. Wo have a travel budgct cf $88,000, "It scems tc mc we are almest impclled tc rcly increasingly on consultants unicss we get a substantial inercasc in staff anc travel funds,” Dr, Dunham remarked that we have one cther source of cxpert advice which docs not apocar on the consultant list, scicntists in cur Naticnal Laberatorics, Thet is the lLcading We draw farly heavily upcin thesc people, asking them te revicw proposals, etc, Dr, Glass cmphesized that the helpful thing that you get by scnding proposals te a pancl rather than to an individual is a little more of an overall judpmcnt. Dr. Glass stated further that he did not mean to imply that the research committce of the Divisicn as it cpcratcs should be replaced. OFFICTAL US@ ONLY we em eee eee oe ee