SESSION II 47 just these RADEF boys, with their instruments which showed something or other, who claimedit was hazardous and that they were losing their ships and equipment and their gear and their laundry and their possessions. You could understand some of the objections. It was a lot of trouble and it was costl). How do you get a station to stand out in the ocean inthe right place’? The waves come along in a little while and the fallout which hits the water is gone. Even the SARAR left an awful lot of oil when she sank, and this went on over the reef, It was traced downwind about 60 miles but in ten hours it was gone and anybody going out there then could show that there wasn't anything there and could ask why you were worrying. It was costing an awful lot of money and time. The meteorology was expensive, too, to cover this vast area where there wasn't anything to sit on, and it was very chancy. But they didr't really have the concept of how vast this phenomenon was and what the quantities were. You'll find people, not all of them inthe military, who were unwilling to face what might have happened at Alamogordo. Oppyprotested our surveys after the war until the white-backed cattle appeared in the Albuquerque slaughterhouse. It took a lot to o. ercome the resistance to our purchasing of cattle. I don't know if Dunham remembers thi» because it was partiy before his time. Such antagonism to the concept of the meteorological mechanisms and the vastness of the fallout problems, together with all of the expense and trouble and manpower required for instrumentation and the many safeguards like evacuation plans and public relations ccemplications from excluding ships from this vast area, all combined to make this episode possible, Then I feel that this was a very fortunate thing to have happened with so little real tragedy involved because actually nobody was rea)ly hurt seriously by the fallout. DUNHAM: [think the most dramatic thing of all is where that 890-rad line landed. WARREN. Yes, DUNHAM: It was squarely between the Japanese fishing boat and the Rongelap people. WARREN: it better. If you had planned it that way you couldn't have gotten