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to this in World War [Il. So as soon as the first report came out in
the Lancet by Sargeant and Slater of the war neuroses of the men
evacuated from across the Channe}J, [ came downto Washington to
see Lou Weed of the National Research Council about what we were
doing in anticipation of the emotional problems we would be facing
when we vot into this war, He sent me over to the Army Surgeon
General's office where Iwas met by a colonc! who said, “Now, Doctor,

what are you worried about? '

E said,

‘Well,

['m worried about

what preparations we are going to make because we're going to be in
this war and we'll probably have a considerable number of emotional
problems asa result of the war, and we knowfrom World War I what

happened,
he said,

In World War HI, the British have already hadit,''

“Doctor,

inthe U.S. Army!"
Now,

And

you don’t need to worry; we'll Nave no neuroses

[Laughter]

[ just want you to knowthat this is the kind of extraordinary

aspect of human ature one has to face, and [ suspect that the true
story really didn't come out that it -wasn't a radiolcgical but a human
factor that went wrong. But maybe I'm wrong.
EISENBUD: I can understand why you fecl that way. The fact of
the matter is that Joe Herschfelder by then was probably back in
Wisconsin,
WARREN: Jim Cooney was my deputy at Bikini. Jim, like many
others, was not convinced that there was anything to do. He would
leave at four o'clock and go to the BOQ and have a beer just about
the time the bovs were returning with contaminated clothes and hands
on the gangplank, and then about dark the algae would begin to rise
and we would have troubles with radiation through the hull ali night,
lice thought it was unimportant. He thought we were fcolish for staying up all night wondering where the stuff was poing in the deep part
of the lagoon, When Frank caime back with this radioactive sodium,
there was a big haw-hawon his part and they almost court-martialed
me for exposing Frank's ships to this radiation hazard, And, yet,
on the other hand, Jim pooh- poohed the whole operation and thought
it foolish to send a destroyer on this crazy downwind trip in the hope
of getting some rain-out.
If I may just continue. He was the RADEF for the preceding operation and was the adviser to the Army, and many of the times that
described in the last session, when I was up before the Fleet for explanation in a pseudo-court-martial, they couldn't taste it, they
couldn't hear it, they couldn't see it, they couldn't feel it. There were

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