32 DASA 2019-2 After that I joined the staff ac Brookhaven National Laboratory, where Ehave been since, and have contirued to head up the annual medical surveys of these Marshallese people; every year I take out the medical team, experts under the auspices of the AEC and Brook- yee TTT ye oy me i haven, to examine these people, Looking back over the years it seems to me we have come a long way since the © ., days of Bikini and have learned a great deal more, The Marshallese experience has provided us with important information about the effects of fallout on human beings. So I think this conference may serve a rnost useful function in culling such intormation and cxamining it in the light of interdisciplinary facets, EISENBUD: I'm Merril Eisenbud. [envy you fellows and Miss Root because you all know what you are. Youare biochemists or experimentalpathologists, veterinarian pathologists, physicians. I'm not sure what Lam. I started out in pre-medicine; 1 switched to physics in my last year and then was persuaded that one couldn't make a living in physics; so I switched again to electronics enginecring and took my first and my only degree in electrical engineering. Il was interested in biology and tricd to find a degree program to bridge the gaps. [ went from door to door; Il actualy attended school as a registrant for a graduate degrce at three of the major colleges inthe East, but couldn't break downthe tight discipli: ary barriers that existed at that tirne. As I look back on it now, if was probably a good thing. I'm probably the last of the less educated professurs, There aren't many of us left. [think of myself as a sort of a quasi- intellectual mugwump. I like to straddle the fences between the disciplines and I'm never sure which side of the fence my face is on or my rump is on; and sometimes I'in not sure which fence I’m on! [Laughter] Shortly after { got out of school [heard that there was a job open in an insurance companyfor somebody with an interest in biology and a knowledce of electronics, I couldn't understand why one would want that kind of Lackground to sell insurance, So I applied for it, and found that this insurance company, which turned out to be a very large casualty insurance company, was setting up a small lcboratory to look at occupat.cnal disease problems that existed in those days; [ was dispatched to some plants in Pennsylvania to werk out some methods