SESSION VI WARREN: 321 Yes. TAYLOR: There were specific individuals called block wardens in most of the cities in the United States. I believe that's no longer true. WARREN: That was true. FREMONT- SMITH: It died out. TAYLOR: So, I would question whether we've gone up. I think we've gone up with respect to the staff. But that's important because in those days, even though he may not have had any equipment, at least there was a fellow with a tin hat and an armband who knew he was supposed to take charge. AYRES: On the other hand, I'm thinking of these specific vuInerabilities, many of which are less now than they used to be and also the doctrine which up until very recent'y has been very unrealistic. TAYLOR: The doctrines are in the report and nobody knows what is inthe report, WOLFE: That is the trouble. ‘ You've got to remember that 2 out of 3 of these people for all the missions, the wardens, are unavailable for the jobs. Any committee that is set up in the community is only going to be one-third of its original size—if you can find thnse members. SPEAR: No, I think you would have to say that there would be ‘large centers taken out, where the deaths are very heavy, But in the areas where the immediate effects of the attack were not felt, you would have reasonably complete small communities, In other words, this isn't 2 out of 3 in every community across the nation. WOLFE: It's 2 out of 3 in the 200 targets, SPEAR: Yes, but roughly a hundred of the targets are in the counterforce attack, where few people live. AYRES: I think you must distinguish between the situation where people have had warning and are prepared and where you don't have warning. I don't think the latter is a very realistic assumption, but it is the assumption that many people base their plans and calculations on,