SESSION tI! UPTON: 153 Before we get too far away from the Marshal} Islanders, I find it really quite intriguing that a population can be dusted, can develop burns, can be moved off their home island, can see their children stunted, can develop thyroid tumors and can accept this philosophically without great emotional upheaval. FREMONT-SMITH: Have they really understood it? UPTON: Yes. I would be interested in asking Bob to say a little more about how this situation was explained to them in the beginning. | FREMONT-SMITH: If ever. UPTON: Do they really understand its implications? Do they worry about a recurrence, for instance? What do they think about it all? CONARD: Well, it's really hard to know. They have sort of the Oriental viewpoint on things and they are a very phlegmatic type of people. Their reaction to this whole thing has been very calm and collected. They have accepted things as they have arisen. Moving them to another island to live, they took it in their stride. These people mowe around from island to island very readily anyway. They like to go over to Utirik or some of the islands to see other members of their families that are living there. It's nothing unusual. In the old days they used the outrigger canoes to go by family to the island and now they use the interisland cargo ship, the copra ship. They ae crowd on the decks of that and camp there. FREMONT-SMITH: Have there been any anthrepological studies made by Orientally-oriented anthropologists who might understand them; a Rorschach test for the Marshallese people? CONARD: No, sir, not that I know of. FREMONT-SMITH: I think this is the only way one could get an answer because one doesn't know what has been represeed in this so-called phlegmatic attituce. Our Negroes were also very phlegmatic and something unphlegmatic seems to be coming to the surface now. CONARD: They certainly don't have any of the headhunting aspects that I had been led to believe existed when 1 went out there. seen it. , I haven't