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DUNHAM: [think it points up again that it isn't particularly right
because it's radiation. This is just something simply seized on.
WARREN:

This is part of the cold war.

DUNHAM: Not the government people or most of the university
people or most of the scientists. The fallout they've had from some
of the Chinese tests has not been played up very much in the Japanese
press,
TAYLOR: [think the mystique is right here at home, typified by
a comment that President Kennedy made to Jerry Wiesner when they
sitting together in the White House and it was raining out. Kennedy
asked Wiesner whether there was fallout in the rain that was falling
onthe White House lawn,

and Wiesner said,

“Yes,

there still is,"

This was an intense emotional experience for the President, to see

rain with fallout on the outside; nothing connected with anything in any
way quantitative at all.

As far as he was concerned,

that rain that

was falling outside was bad,
ROOT:
berries,

I think it's a little dangerous to equate radiation with cranthough, because we know what radiation can do,

There

should be a legitimate and respected fear of it.
DUNHAM: I'mnot saying it shouldn't be respected, but it happens
in certain areas where the psychciogical seed has already fallen,
ROOT: [think the psychological seed germinates and flourishes
because of the ultimate lethal threat.
DUNHAM:

The pesticides are lethal,

Sois raciation,

WARREN: Not everybody buys cranberries and couldn't care less, —
but everybody is subjected more or less to the fallout.
DUNHAM:

So is Vitamin A.

It's toxic, too.

MILLET: This, [think brings up another point perhaps. We've
been talking about our dissatisfaction with leaders for not giving us
the information that we ought to have. I think we're getting into the
area of the mystique of the leader in this country, and perhaps one
of the great problems hasn't been touched upon sufficiently yet, which
is that our leaders are not sufficiently well educated to know what to

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