DRAFT a conservative grant. statement. But it was either that or I was unaware of the power of my position, thought I knew it. won't expose everything until BERGE: the and he probably I was too innocent of politics to realize that I had pushed him to the wall on this thing. be 95 before loose ft was funny. I write my biography. But I I want to I write it. I'm just about finished. You mentioned something about doing radiation therapy work in UCSF specifically on the effects on blood count. KOHN: Yes BERGE: Did you work with, with that? well what kind of work did you do And did you have any collaboration for some of the hematologists at UCSF? KOHN: No. I was no great shakes, paper was published in 1955, but, where is that? but it changes the human lipocite count during X-ray therapy for cancer ???. when I came in doing some clinical work, Well I had noticed I noticed the literature on the changes in the blood count was very small, and so I did these, I had an assistant, amazingly so, a technician who would withdraw blood from the patients following being treated, these blood counts and then I published this paper. was interesting results, That but what I meant was, I still am not quite sure what it means, 34 and did I thought it it's a funny thing, but anyhow, it makes you