N-O-L-D. He is now, I wish I had a catalog here. He is now retried; he was the
chief or the medical examiner for one of the big insurance companies in San
Francisco. He lives in Nogales and is in the telephone directory. Anyhow,
get hold of him; he was also the Health and Safety Officer for UCSF. Now

whoelse would there be? Of course, you could always go over and speak to
the head of radiation therapy. The trouble is that the people who are in there
now played no role in the era in which you are interested in, and so there's
no point to our discussing it with them. Bob Kallman downin Stanford
could tell you about Henry Kaplan; Henry Kaplan wasthe Professor of
Radiology at Stanford. But I don't think that Henry really had any connection
with the Lawrence-Livermore people. I don't know.If there is something to
be learned, Bob could tell you about that or not. That's really aboutall that I
can...

BERGE:

Maybe wecould round it out with some information on your

work after you left, when you went to Harvard. You can tell mea little bit
aboutthose years there.
[3. Boston]

KOHN:

It was owing to a man by the nameof Shields Warren. Have

you ever heard of him? Shields Warren obtained moneyfor a radiological
laboratory at the New England Deaconess Hospital in Boston. I left this place
to go to Harvard and also to becomethe director of the Shields Warren
Radiation Laboratory. That laboratory was supposed to promote experimental
work in the radiological sciences that pertains to diagnosis, therapy, and to
isotopes. So each department, the way I eventually organized that part, each
departmenthad its own spacein the laboratory. In other words, the
Departmentof Diagnostic Radiology had a laboratory which it was responsible

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