N-O-L-D. He is now, I wish I had a catalog here. He is now retried; he was the chief or the medical examiner for one of the big insurance companies in San Francisco. He lives in Nogales and is in the telephone directory. Anyhow, get hold of him; he was also the Health and Safety Officer for UCSF. Now whoelse would there be? Of course, you could always go over and speak to the head of radiation therapy. The trouble is that the people who are in there now played no role in the era in which you are interested in, and so there's no point to our discussing it with them. Bob Kallman downin Stanford could tell you about Henry Kaplan; Henry Kaplan wasthe Professor of Radiology at Stanford. But I don't think that Henry really had any connection with the Lawrence-Livermore people. I don't know.If there is something to be learned, Bob could tell you about that or not. That's really aboutall that I can... BERGE: Maybe wecould round it out with some information on your work after you left, when you went to Harvard. You can tell mea little bit aboutthose years there. [3. Boston] KOHN: It was owing to a man by the nameof Shields Warren. Have you ever heard of him? Shields Warren obtained moneyfor a radiological laboratory at the New England Deaconess Hospital in Boston. I left this place to go to Harvard and also to becomethe director of the Shields Warren Radiation Laboratory. That laboratory was supposed to promote experimental work in the radiological sciences that pertains to diagnosis, therapy, and to isotopes. So each department, the way I eventually organized that part, each departmenthad its own spacein the laboratory. In other words, the Departmentof Diagnostic Radiology had a laboratory which it was responsible 14