KOHN:

K-A-L-L-M-A-N. And Dr. Shirley Gunter, who had just taken

her degree in Berkeley with a very well known microbiologist, Dr. Stanier.

BERGE:

Her name is G-U-N-T-H-E-R?

KOHN:

No. G-U-N-T-E-R. Shirley Gunter. Her name, see would be

down here somewhere. Let's see. That's it. They were the two people I
started with and then they moved on and some others came, eventually a
fellow by the name of Ludwig wholater became a professorat Irvine. Paul
Guttman and Donald Baily, during that time we did a variety of experiments.
Dr. Gunterfirst did this work which is cited over here on page two. Gunter
and Kohn, The Effect of X-rays on the Survival of Bacteria and Yeast. Because
we wanted to use those organisms in determining the RBE of the high-energy
machines. She did an extensive survey there, and then went on andvisited
New York and Texas. Dr. Kallman did a lot of work on micein the lab.

BERGE:

I noticed from reading other bibliographies, for example, Dr.

Tobias, that during the 1950's there wasa lot of interest in studying radiation
affects on yeast cells. Why?

KOHN:

Well, bacteria, as you probably know,have only one

chromosome. Yeast have pairs of chromosomes. You can grow them in
suspension. They grow like bacteria, and are very convenient to work with.

BERGE:

As opposed,to say,fruit flies?

KOHN:

I wouldn't say that yeast are opposedto fruit flies. I just say that.

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