: 4 1180 ountto Mr, Duncax.c measurements show some level of cesium in your sop’ would ( him ¢ + .M cCauw. Yes. z cancer roan. Do you have any way of knowing that he wil! not get ficou No. . Dencan. That is all I have I have to go to another committee. I just wanted to worry you. | Mr. Yares. Wait one half minute for my question. | Getting beck to my comment about the federal standards, my son was treaied for a tonsil disease in 1944 by then applicable medical standards. He was given radiation in the treatment of his tonsils. Everyone thought it was great. It was a common medica] practice. Thousands of young peop e were having their tonsils removed or shriveled as e result of this treatment. He, like all the others of that we : age group, are now threatened with cancer because of having irradi 25 years ago. So now these people—I assume the ; been radistion he received may have been comparable to the ingestion of cesium or strontium. The thought occurs to me, and I talked to the cancer specialists at NCI in connection with some of the herbicides and additions to food, and they say amounts really don’t mean very much at any particular time. The question is what will be the effect 25 years from now as 8 different kind of stimulant or carcinogenic materia! is brought to bear on the body. So getting back to the question of Federal standards, five years from now you migé.t decide in the new Department of Energy that the levels you established are much too high and that you should estab- lish lower standards because you have, as Mr. Duncan pointed out, more sophisticated equipment. { . 3 ; McCeas. It is not a problem of being able to measure the dose 't% devel. It is knowing the effect. Mr. Yates. You might go now. Mr. Dencan. It is a question of exercising our best judgment. I -4 would suggest that five years from now you might even be able to sustain even lower levels. %=2 . down for a long period of time. We are trying to keep the dose in 8 year below the annua! standards, and all the 30 year doses below the “ SicCpa cre looking at 30 year standards, to keep the dose rr year standard. SAFETY OF BIKINIANS UNDER PRESENT CONDITIONS ' Mr. Yares. That brings us to the question at hand. What erevou going todo? You have the level of cesium andstronium in the Biki- Oi Uisine pet ears. ev are still on their island. o_o . Have you told them to.get off? For your own good. you ought to move! Mr. Desi Mr. Chairman, I don't know thet anyone thinks that this is’a life threatening situationat this time. Mr. Yares. Really? ; ; . ; i It is the kind of thing that if you let it continue over a long period of time then it would begin to be of hazard to their health. DOE ARCHIVES 5002414