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external counting of the radiation emitted by the americium which is normally
a contaminant of plutonium,
The weak x-rays emitted by plutonium can also be
measured by using a thin cesium crystal glued to a large sodium iodide
crystal.
Anticoincidence counting gets around the problem of the background
and provides a sensitive test.
Presently intercomparisons are being made by
all the various laboratories that are doing external counting.
Dr. Wood
pointed out that germanium detectors show a great deal of promise for
external counting but as yet they are not big enough to be particularly useful.
He showed the committee an esophageal probe which can be inserted by mouth
and which will detect plutonium deposited in the lymph nodes along the tracheal
bronchial chain.
The sensitivity is estimated at perhaps 10 nanocuries.
Another new development is a wound probe which uses a silicon avalanche
detector.
In many respects it is similar to the esophageal probe.
Dr. Edington, Chief of the DBM Biology Branch, reported on the proposal
of Dr. Neel, from the University of Michigan, to make further genetic studies
at the Atomic Bomb Casualty Commission.
Briefly, Neel is proposing to use
new techniques to examine the serum of the F,
generation in Japan.
By
examining the serum for certain isosymes, he may be able to estimate the
number of biochemical mutants induced by the radiation exposure to the
parents,
The early studies that were done by Neel and Schull necessarily
used somewhat cruder endpoints.
Dr. Dunham, from the National Academy of
Sciences, Dr. Neel, Dr. Edington, and Mr. Whitnah from the DBM staff recently
visited Japan to explore the possibility of initiating these studies.
The
Advisory Committee to the NAS for ABCC last spring approved the proposed
research.
Approval is also required from the Japanese National Institute of
Health before such work can be initiated.
The JNIH approved a pilot study
only, which would be limited to presently stored blood samples from the
cytogenetic studies

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collected routinely for other

purposes can also be used.
There are approximately 1000 samples stored and
the present rate of collection is about 1500 samples a year.
Dr. Neel visited Kyoto University and the University of Tokyo as well
as some other schools to talk especially with Japanese biochemists to try
to interest them in the project.
They seemed enthusiastic and would
undoubtedly become involved in the study.
A pilot program to conduct this
research is presently being set up. About $50,000 from an existing contract
with Dr. Neel will be used in FY-1972.
They hope to have the equipment and
three technicians ready to opeate by the first of July.
Current budget
thinking is for about $100,000 in FY-1973.
By July 1974, they hope to have
the approval to go into a full scale study.
Dr. Bruner, Assistant Director of DBM, reported briefly on the Second
White House Conference on Aging.
The Committee then went into executive session.
Dr. Burr reported
that the article in the November 5, 1971, issue of Science concerning
Rocky Flats had distressed the Commission.
The matter was discussed with
Dr. Larson, of the Commission.
Drs. Bair and Goldstein outlined a couple
of possible articles on plutonium which might be written and published in
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