DOCUMENT SOURCE Lawrence Barkeley Laboratory Archives and Records Offico Records Series Tie 2 ‘ Accession No. Fite Code No. 12 -i41 = 24 generation. SSH: How early do you remember them trying to do that? KGS: Well, in the late thieetes, I would say fs the first . "30s of id, I became gore wouk. SSH: Why were they so interested in having it moved? KGS; Well, everyone was Very critical of the U.C. medical centers with Hold fashioned school and ity old-fashioned faculty. SSH: Well, let's finish with the P32 cherapygecause that's an interesting episode. Can you tell me about the first patient treatment on Christmas Eve? Did you go in when you were called at home? KGS: Well, I went fn and did my job. nat I wasn't interested in that,’ it was kind of a big grandstand act. SSH: For. whose benefit? KGS; The Lawrences, John and Ernest. SSH: Was this again to attract funding? KGS: Yes, and fame, SSH: What was the basis for making the step from the animal experiments to human therapy? Our results on mice in the early days; on monkeys gle kes: eventyally had some monkeys. "I believe that P32 therapy for leukemia peters out in the ‘SSH: war yeara. Wars “iatsimply because it was realized that it was, not effective oo well; t don" t thar that it ever: got a fair chance. xcs: 7 If you can‘eure ‘mciise ‘Yéukemta with P32," you can cure human leukemia. had.‘efinaee enough to give them the amount that But no ‘one, sm hae they adéded at:celles timesnile 4 + a =} . ws mot ma a woot ge