there is going to be a political impact upon our work. selves will feel that we haven't done our job, If we meet ignorance with ignorance, I think that we our- We should meet some of these arguments that will be brought up in the next few years with facts, and the only way we can get these is to go up and get them ourselves, Dr. Shreve: Thanks very much, Major Stebbins. As a hobby, I do a little choir directing, and one of the things I learned long ago was that, when you get a group up to render a musical number, the first thing that starts is the mood, then the music, and then the choral part, It must end the same way, must be a moment while the mood drifts off pleasantly. The music must stop, there I think we have an appropriate parallel here. The mood was begun with Josh Holland outlining for us the motivations for the meeting and the outline of purposes. think we are in a position now to have the mood gracefully drift away. I So, with these poetic phrases, let me introduce Josh Holland. Mr. Holland: I'll drift away as gracefully as I can, I think if we decided to extend this meeting another day we probably could all find more things to say, but I don't feel that it is necessary to add anything at this point. morning's program has really been excellent. I had apprehensions about a loose agenda without technical papers, but I think this series of summings up, questions, and so on, has been very valuable. all of you coming to this meeting. I think this I appreciate We in the AEC, in cooperation with Sandia, decided to throw this party, and we are very thankful that you took time away from your very busy life to come and take part. Certainly the interest and excitement of the meeting and its usefulness are the result of all you people coming here and giving to it. I thank you very much, Mr. Pope: I have been waiting for somebody to come up with something other than things of government interest, something that the private industries could be interested in. I am reminded of "Mary, Mary, quite contrary, / How does your garden grow?/ I have it all in a soil bank, Sir, /I'm living on government dough." Mr. Reed: I'll answer our internal squabble right off the bat. I think in the whole sampling program the interest to meteorologists is one that is directly related to the over-all problem of weather forecasting, which I believe personally is a major factor in the whole GNP of the country. is to learn how to forecast the weather, The easiest way I know of to become a billionaire The whole country would pay that price if I could forecast it. There are a great many things in solar relationships, in high atmosphere relationships, which appear to correlate with the lower atmosphere of meteorology and weather forecasting that we cannot understand without a much better knowledge of the regime into which we want to go. Mr. Holland: Let me give another answer. the program, We say that we have to have this information in order to go forward with Another way of saying the same thing is that we have a responsibility to citizens of the United States and, to some extent, to the people of the whole world not to subject them to undue levels of radioactive