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want copper, he couldn't think of anything that would be better for
the United States now than to sell it to them. He had been under
very heavy pressure by U. S. copper producers. In general, the
President added, he did not believe in these restrictive trade practices except on items whose technology was known to the United States
but not known to the Soviet bloc. He would like to see these lists
taken up in the negotiations item by item for a careful scrutiny.
The President predicted that the Free World would be stronger if we
in the United States were more sensible about trade practices. The
President cited Japan. The Japanese desired to manufacture stainless steel. Our manufacturers of stainless steel wanted the President to put on a protective tariff. If he did so, what would the
Japanese do?

In summing up the discussion of this item, General Cutler

said that he would try to write out in general terms the desired
policy guidance for the U. S. negotiators. He would submit this
proposed policy guidance to the Departments of State, Defense and
Commerce before showing the guidance to the President. General

Cutler then outlined what he believed to be the consensus of the

meeting as to the desirable U. S. position in the COCOM negotiations.
Thereafter General Cutler suggested to the President that
it would be desirable for the President to ask the CFEP to review

our current U. 8. Economic Defense Policy (NSC 5704/3) in the light

of the changes which were now contemplated in our COCOM position
with respect to the level of mitilateral trade controls against
the Sino-Soviet bloc.

The President reiterated that he wanted a serutiny of the
lists item by item. General Cutler said that this would be done,

and that the three Secretaries (State, Defense and Commerce) would

agree on which items were to be decontrolled. Such a process, however, would be better accomplished in the CFEP than in the National
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very little time to reach agreement on the U. 8. position, and he

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