poo TOP SECRET! OS met Nae es Thereafter, General Cutler called on Dr. Killian for any comments that he desired to make on Mr. Holaday's report. Dr. Killian stated that with respect to the first and second items (ICEM and POLARIS), he would say that we are reaching . @ point where it is necessary to undertake an over-all review of our U. S. ballistic missiles programs, particularly in view of the possibility of achieving a solid propellant ICEM (the so-called "Minute Man"). 4 As to the TITAN program, Dr. Killian commented that it looked promising and appeared to be subject to greater improvement in the future than did the ATLAS, the prospects for improving which were not so considerable. Accordingly, it might be better to put our money on TITAN rather than on ATLAS. This question should be part of the general review which he was recommending. On the other hand, Dr. Killian warned that we should not jump to the conclusion that a solid propellant ICBM was near at hand and stake too much on that assumption. With respect to the POLARIS missile, Dr. Killian pointed out the extreme complexities we were encountering in developing navigation and guidance systems. He also pointed out the very high cost per missile of the nuclear submarine program. (A copy of Dr. ! Killian's comments is filed in the minutes of the meeting.) When Dr. Killian had completed his comments on Mr. Holaday's report, the President inquired whether what they had been Listening to did not emphasize the need for a centralized research on fuels because these fuels were used all across the board. The President said he would put such centralized research under the Secretary of Defense. In response, Dr. Killian pointed out that research on solid propellant fuels differs in important respects from research on liquid propellant fuels. _Secretary Dulles indicated that he had some observations© tfiiti. to make. jesevesseeeeles sieliciesTerniinrinrnnilninineuinniiiiy Bee cee eee eee eet e tenes eee te > Neen tee Pec nce ee | ee ee e eee c tere eee n eer ences tere rena re tear nea ratesretasrasesaaeeraerrencerrers retecneeseserrcrereecrscersaganerssarecasareceessin ee ee ed sete estes errs se arers certs : seetee SUETETECMEECETECSSCETORSCUOCUESESTSLSOS OOS ESSE SS: : MH . ; i ye ff |. I I pM % a a Pitiiliii Quine En pete . gt af cc Ln et a Re Cee k. : fae " ‘ . ansune oy. Ay “ - 10 - pitie+ hoe, Lye e : op FER pera - ; . he's! wTOP SECRET