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‘MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION WITH MR. GORDON GRAY
Tuesday, October 8, 1958 - ll a.m.
He talked about the organization of the work on nuclear test
suspension and surprise attack, pointing out that on the basis of the
record there was a committee of Dulles, McElroy and Anderson on
nuclear test suspension, and one of Dulles, McElroy and Killian on
surprise attack. He doubted whether Anderson, particularly in view
of his present absence, was necessary on either committee, and sug-
gested that the two committees be combined as Dulles, McElroy and
Killian. I said this was agreeable tome. He indicated that on nuclear
test Suspension there was considerable diference of opinion within the
Administration on the question of permitting tests below the threshold
of detection, permitting peaceful uses, and whether our agreement was
contingent upon progress in other disarmament matters. [ said 1 thought
all these matters had been settled by the Presidential statement which
had been earlier approved. Mr. Gray said this might be so, but many
people in the Government did not take it that way and he thought the issue
Should be resolved.
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We spoke of the complications ofsurprise attick as the resuli of
the missile situation. I said I doubted we would really be prepared by the
first of November but that probably ways could be found for postponement
without a bad public relations reaction. I pointed out that our own poSition
was not yet entirely firm, and much less had we reached agreement with
the British and French, and perhaps others who might compose thé Western
delegation.
We spoke of the functioning of the NSC.
futile to go on beating over past papers.
He thought it was rather
He said the President had sug-
gested the possibility oflimited meetings of the NSC confined to the Statutory members to discuss informally urgent matters.
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