382 DASA2019-2 RISE SNEBUD Yes. This was a dramatic part of the German situation, Por chose ot vou whe haven't seen it, there's a very interestIhg Cocumert whichis a report trom the Hambury police chief, [t has been translated into Mughlish and is penerally available through Civil Perense circles. It describes that particular fire storm inwhich the most particular cause of ‘leath was suffocation: people who West satin a pool of therr own melted fat. AYRES: That's a differeat cause of death but a lot of peaple apparently cred of carbon monoxide poisoning, TAYDEOR Yes. HOISPMBOUD: This was suffocation, UPTON Of course there was the Coconut Grove disaster, avery much smahier one, mn which people were killed in the stampede, the panto and the suffocation, — TAYLOR, [think it's important, though; at least some people claun it was carbon monoxide poisoning and not an oxygen deficiency, The reason it's important is the idea that there's no oxygen around that can feed ventilation systems, and so on; it's not clear. WARREN: Isn't ait true that there isn't any oxygen around? TAYLOR Tthiok same people argue that it's not true that there's not oxygen around; that there is oxygen, in fact, and that what caused the deaths in Hamburg was a combination of poisoning. AYRES Tf there s enougn oxygen to feed the fire, there's enough to supply the people, TAYLOR: AYRES: Yes. But carbon monoxide is another matter, EISENBUD-: Carbon monoxide is another form of asphyxiation. That's academic.. TAYLOR: It may be possible to pct good air.