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AYRES:

No.

WARREN:

Only Russia or the European countries as a group.

If they were badly knocked out, this would te serious.

EISENBUD: I would think the Latin American countries would
begin to slip badly if Western Europe and the United States lost their
potential,

CONARD:
MILLER:
help?
AYRES:

Wevould have to stop to help them!
Don't you think it would be very unwise to count on any

Yes.

On the other hand I don't think I would worry too

much about being kicked in the pants, but it does depend on how the
war was fought.

Not only who won but how it started.

If we have too

much of a guilt complex about it and if -ther people think that it's our
fault, that could be a very bad situation.
WARREN:

Isn't it funny, though, when the chips are down in the

TAYLOR:

If that occurred,

long run it's our image and personality that are still so important.

it means to me we won the war, be-

cause if we didn't win the war it's going to keep happening. There's
not one drop; there is a drop in living and another drop in living and
another and another and it goes on and on and on and when it stops it's
because we won the war. The only way we won the war is by destroying all their weapons or because they have used them up, one or the
other, Solthink...
EISENBUD.

You cz.n have a condition of mutual stagnation.

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EISENBUD: Staff, you must have given a good deal of thought to
the situation you saw in Japan because you got there almost ahead of
anybody else. As a physician, what do you think the public health
problems might have been in the first year without outside help’
WARREN: Well, they were potentially very bad. If we hadn't
used DDT right away I think epidemics would have gotten loose, This
is quite obvious in Hiroshima when I first went there, The flies were
so thick that you could see them on people, as they walked by, as
- polka dots. It was hardi tell whether the white cloth was white or

whether it was polka dotted.

Within a week they were gone and this

had a big boost on the moiale of the inhabitants because they knew

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