208 DASA 2019-2 parties my folke would give on a Saturday aight wees *hat they would generally break up into some pretty hot arguments. that any more, The unpleasant subjects are dodged. We doa‘t see People don't like fo take iesue, think we are much more polite than people were &@ generation of two ago 14 discussion with each other and [ think also we tend nat to show our cards. This, [ think, may be the result of some af the polarteation that took place, for examples, during the McCarthy pertod where people weren't willing to say, at least they would like toa avoid saying, where they stoed on anything because they dida't hnow what the meaning of this might be, you eee, in the way thinge were going. But, Chuch, and thie is one of the low times t iad myself in disagreement with you, {think thet a group of women gentratly will reflect what the:r husbands are interested in, and if thease men were obseeset with the importance of thie subject in the way i think they chould de, their wives would certainly know more abow ##. To me this wee a very significant experience, TAYLOR: Lthink you put your linger on the reason. Their hus- bands were not interested in the subject, FREMONT-SMITHEISENBUD Exactly. That's the voint f was trying te make, dida't make it orig.nally. I'm sorry I DE BOER: The documents you are talking about are well-known and reasonahly good, [la fact, in some waye they are exceptionally good, but they aleo have thetr faulte, For one thing, they are not updated, Sa many people, when acked to support current research and who have read those documents, will say, ‘Were not thoee protseme anawered in dacument so and 00, published in the late fortles and early (iftien’?" Ae a relative newcomer in this field of radiation bs togy, lam often called upon to deline our current progratine, Having done eo with a great deal of seal and enthusiasm, Iam often asked, “Well, waen't all that done somewhere around 14467 Don't you people ever give up’ Do you alwaye need more dollars” Talk abou® dip. couragement, Talk about ignorance. Talk about what still neede to be done inall fields. Thies ts part of the siruggle which faces us be- cause not allies answered, nor will it ever be, Yes, thoee are good documents, no doubt abouts it, but I think we are foolish if we try to tell ourselves that ail the questions were answered in those documents, AYRES. I must say that [ agree with that,