266 DASA 2019-2 MILLET. How much need to migrate is there in Japan? How much desire to live in other countrivs and kecome citizens of other countries? SCHULL: The thruat today certainty ia toward the big cities, but there is tomes migration elsewhere, There hat been recruitment throughout ‘apan of people, principally farmers, .o goto Braal, Colombia, and several other countries ta South America; the quotas are usually over-subecribed. But the major movement, ae i've sald, je to the large cities, and particularly those with rewly devel. oping industrial areas, notably light industry. Hirado, for example, between the national census of 1960 and our census in 1964 had lost about 10 percent of its population. It is moatiy the young pecple who are leaving the island: they find the urban ereas more aitractive or at least olfering more opportunities. Since the rumber of farme on Hirado has not diminished as a result of thie migration, it is abe viously no longer essential {rz the young to remain on the land, Presumably thie, in turn, reflects changing agricultural practices, and especially increasing mechanisation. The tact that the young can leave without necessarily impairing the productivity of the fam Uy farm, coupled with the active receuitment of labor in the rural areas by a number of Japan's industries, caontcibutes ta the urge ta move, Hecent migration from Hirado hae been chiefly to Fukucka, the nearest city of a half a million sshabitants or more, to Osaba, to Nagoys, and to Tokyo, tt seems (2 me, to return to the major issue before us, that the Japanese experience with and attitude toward iontaing radiation lea hasardous base from which to extrapolate to what might happen in Spain or moat any other country. However, careful etudy of the re- actions of fapan can make an extremely important contribution to the methodology of evaluation, and particularly to the task of appraisal of the role of a complex cultural fabric in the overall response to a “nuclear happening. FREMONT-SMITH: Did you feel that the alienatios of the young people had started several years car:ier in Japan before it became evident over here? SCHULL That's my impression, yee, Atatime, let's say, when our students at the Univereity of Michigan were «till primarily interested in panty raide, the Japanese students had begun to be more ace tive politically, but then they havea long tradition of paliticas activ. ity which doean't exist in the United States.