260 DASA 2019-2 LANGHAM: There is a followup program... This was part of the bargain, that we would set up a followup program. UPTON: What are the objectives and the scope of this program? LANGHAM: They've got a people's program, a soil program, a vegetation or a produce program, an air sampling program, and they were extremely clever in the way they approacned us on this. They said, "Now, we've taken your advice and we're sure that you have given us the right advice. Will you please set us up with a pro- gra.n and equipment so we can prove to our authorities that we were right in following your advice." So they have a followup program, yes. UPTON: Under their own auspices, or do they furnish advisers? LANGHAM: This was very strong inthe!r minds, They wanted thir to be their program with us providing the backup, giving them the equipment, teaching them the techniques, which we've done, and occasionally advising them and letting them send people to this country. I've had two or three of them at Los Alamos already. I think you'll fild that Spain wants to get back into the swing of things; they want, above all, to use this to maintain a contact, and they want contacts. [ would bet that if you counted the number of friends we have got in Spain as compsred to what we had before this accident, we would count more friends there than we had before. This was an opportunity for them to get outside contacts. FREMONT-SMITH: That's why you got your medal! LANGHAM: Well, I never quite figured out why ! got a medal, because this is a rather sober thing within itself. What you find is that ciurcumetances place you in a position that you can't get out of ‘and you are the focal point of the effort of an awful lot of people. Winning medals is just being in the right place at the right time. FREMONT-SMITH: [think making friends was the crucial thing. That's why we have more friends. Anyway, I think there's a very interesting comment, because I think we don't have more friends probably, ['m not sure lam right, in Japan asa result of the thirg there.