SESSION II 169 EISENBUD: One of the things that bothers me, ha- ing lived through this almoat aa long as you! guess Stafford Warren has got two more years than I have, and after 25 yeara that docsn't seem important because theese were erciting years—but I got into this fie!d when we were thinking of one or two bombs, air-delivered because you ha’ to consider their cffect on blast, and so forth. That was 1945, when we were talking about 20 kilotons delivered by a propelier aircraft. In 1955 we were already talking about 20 megaton bombs delivered by jet aircraft. By 1965 the [CBM systema on both sides were pretty well dispersed, presumably by the hundreds, maybe by the thousands; I don't know. Now we're talking about 1975 when we expect to have an anti-miasile syatem emplo,ed, and the impressive thing about this is that the technology has gotten to the point where you can even think of knocking a missiie out of the air on about 10 minutes' notice or whatever it is. It may be leas, and if the technology is that advanced, then what are the delivery sys- tems going to be like? Ifthe defense system has advanced to this point, what are the delivery systems going to be like in 1975 when ve see what has happened in the last 20 years? ROOT: Probably they'll all be chsolete. We'll be using lasers.