160 DASA 2019-2 pointed out tous by Dr. Taylor yesterday. Will there be mass hysteria if part of New York or San Francisco blows up, and will there be a cry for all-out retaliation? Retaliation in what? What are our pians under these circumstances? How much weaponry shall be used in arder to retaliate against China; and ‘f we have these plans, what is eventually coming back to us in terms of fallout? TAYLOR: On Russia. DE BOER: Or on ourselves as far as I'm concerned. Do we have any plans of this nature? I don't think we have. I think it's worthy of consideration in terms of an open forum, whether these plans are here officially or not officially. AYRES: As long as you're speaking of China, a lot of people believe that the Russians are probably building their ADM system because they're worrying about China. DE BOER: As Dr. Taylor mentioned yesterday, it does not have to be China. There are other sources quite capable. make up our minds as to how to proceed? sidered if China attacks Russia alone. Are we ready to Aiso, fallout has to be con- -FREMONT-SMITH: And you put this out very effectively. about if we don't know? How DE BOER: The question is how much of our strength is necessary to subdue the enemy? It is easily done if one knows the threat. Even in the case of Russia, we have enough weapons. TAYLOR: Not if we don't know who did it. Kill everybody? Who do we go and hit? DE BCER: We'll have an idea as to where it comes fram—from the east or the west. TAYLOR: All of a sudden a bomb goes off in New York. It went off because somebody put it into the bagzment of somebody's house. HEMLER: I say it doesn't have to come in by ICBM to go off, WARREN: harbor. It can come in ona ship in the harbor and go off in the