Bair: The higher one on the Rongelap which is Naen, it‘s in the north. The radiation dose, the amount of radiation they would get if they lived there, would be about 6 times more than if they lived on this, on Rongelap island. And the risk of having a health effect would be 6 times higher. (To Alice: How do you plan to translate that?) (Alice to DOE Representatives: Cowan: . I am not sure how...) Does that mean that you could take 6 times that and that 34 people would die of cancer in the next 3 years due to the radiation? Bair: That is the upper estimate, the highest risk estimate that people would, that scientists would support. Buck: This wouldn't be multiplied by 6. Bair: No, no. If they received 6 times as much radiation, than this risk number would be higher. Ray: Cowan: Out of the 233... Can I use, ask what growth rate you used? We assumed that the population would increase by a factor of 3. Cowan: Bair: It would be 0.6 to 3.6. That would be for the entire population (of 233) living on and subsisting on Naen. Bair: This, is the high? 3% per annum? No, three times in 30 years, and it is based on the past increases in the Marshall Islands. Robison: But that again, it is important to understand that, if you talk about Naen and the number 6 times greater than Rongelap, that's assuming that they live there full time and eat all their food from there. 31