ee 942 Mr. McKay, How do you get coconuts in the procram? What kind of a bureaucratic round-about do vou have to go througli to get them ‘on the program! Mr. DeBren. T guess we just include it, make sure we have enough money {0 go aroun Mr. McKay. Would vou have authority toapprove it? Mr. DeBrrat. No, sir. It would have to be approved by the High Commissioner. Mr. McKay. Could he approve it alone or would he have to get approval up here? Mr. DrBrera. I think he has authority to approve it. the Hig!, Commissioner. Mrs. Vax Creve. Yes. Mr. MATES. Mr. DeBrim. von said if caconuts were nat supplied you asa Taman. von world be ehh Gee Lo! DEER yes. 1 CHO. Were seaibeche ar ple. lend, Ves, Mr. Yates. And Mth avaticbh a: the jeland. are they nat? Mr. DeBress. Mr. Yatrs. Soofy sue thom ple earaniuts they are roing to chimn the trees teert phe epg. even of they are nrretreracren Slr. Di Brus, Thev pave ber dame tig sir, ee - — NATURE AND THE TYPE OF ANALYSIS BY DOE Mr. Yates. Let’s po back to the interrogation. “So vou became a little more alarmed than when vor were the Atomic Energy Commission. in 76 you first encountered this kind of a test, Is thisan annual test that you had been making of the people! “Mr. Deac. Yes, sir. “Mr. Yates. What kind of tests. mouthiv. semiannually. every four months. or what? “M- Dra. T can supply 3you a statement for the record. T will give ye" on information.” Then ..ere is placed in the record on pages 1172 and 1175 a pretty geod statement of fests that were made ‘and a very bad esti- mate of the esults of the tests. We find in 1964 the findings. ‘photo. graphed and ilentified organisms on reefs andislands, No q7ross Anon- alics seen in plants and animals duc to radioactivity. 1976 shows “exposure Jevels to the Bikinians varices cons sderably from sland to island on the atoll.” February 1967. “confirmed earlier survey results for external radiation.” That does not tell us anything. “Cs-137 and strontium 90 predomi- nate in terrestrial organisms. Co-69 ond Fe-o5 in marine organisms.” What docs that mean, Dr. Deal? Mr. Dra. It means that in the fish that they were catching they found cobalt-60 and Fe-55. Mr. Yatrs. In large amounts? Mr. Drar. IT do not know, sir. Mr. Yates. This result docs not show that then? Mr. Drat. No. We did not trv to give vou a complete copy of the reports. We just tried {9 give you the highlights of the surveys at the time, and probubly, as vou say, did a pretty poor job on that. a 9011534