for test suspension unless and until there was an amendment to the U. S. atomic energy legislation which would permit the British to secure our technical information if they agreed to stop testing their own weapons. The French, predicted Secretary Dulles, would take very much the same position. As far as the inspection zones proposed by Governor Stassen were concerned, Secretary Dulles expressed the conviction that | these zones went far beyond anything which had been approved by the RATO Council, and he strongly doubted that the NATO Council would approve of them. Secretary Dulles also expressed great doubt that two-thirds of the members of the United States Senate would agree in approving the Stassen proposals. Most Americans don't like gerrymandering, and members of Congress from the West Coast would strongly oppose having their areas opened to Soviet inspection while the rest of the country was free of such inspection. Finally, said Secretary Dulles, on this subject of zones he agreed with the views of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to the effect that Gover- nor Stassen's proposed zones were heavily weighted in favor of the Soviet Union in terms of both military and industrial significance. Secretary Dulles said that he must, however, agree that from the world standpoint the Council must consider the views expressed by Ambassador Lodge, together with other significant views on this subject. Secretary Dulles felt that the ordinary run of people in many countries were going along with the simplified Soviet views on disarmament. This, however, was not true of the govermnents of these countries, most of whom thought our own position was sound even though they had to make apparent concessions to their public opinion. This ill-informed public opinion was undoubtedly important, but so also was the fact that we had taken a firm position last August on the subject of disarmament, had insisted that this position was sound, and had likewise stressed in public statements the emphasis that we were now giving to the achieve- ment of "clean" tactical weapons. If we retreat from this general position sketched above, Secretary Dulles predicted that we would momentarily appease hostile public opinion, but at the same time we would invite a new Soviet propaganda campaign, the essential keynotes of which would be either that the United States is now thoroughly frightened and willing to make any kind of disarmament agreement, or, alternatively, that the USSR had always been right in its own proposals for disarmament and now at long last the United States was coming to admit it. It seemed to Secretary Dulles that this was & very wrong time to make these concessions. This was a time when everybody was looking for signs of wealmess in the United States. It was also a time which would provide the occasion for a fresh Soviet propaganda onslaught on the subject of disarmament. O ~8. 2p ORE ERTS oa we? allIIE, i b 7 eater

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