DR. DUNHAM then proceeded with a review of the Division program, mentioning Dr. Henshaw's program of categories of problems, Dr. Shilling'ts program review, and Mr. Stanwood's problems with the budget. MR. STANWOOD was introduced and presented a review of the budget. He said that the Biology and Medicine budget DBM _ PROGRAM of $36 million constituted approximately 1.7% of the entire AEC budget and gave a resume of budget allotments in the past and estimates for the future which ran from $13.2 million in 1948 to a proposed $45 million budget in 1959. In response to a question by DR. WARREN, MR. STANWOOD gave some additional information as to the amount of budget going into overhead. He stated that the cost per scientific man year in a national laboratory runs from $30,000 to $35,000 whereas in a quasi-Commission laboratory such as Rochester or UCLA, it would be somewhat over $20,000 per year. program it would run about $10,000 per man year. In the offsite DR. DUNHAM then introduced DR. SHILLING, who reviewed the research program. He spoke of the problems inherent in an expanding research program and the importance of improving communications. RESEARCH PROGRAM He spoke also of the difficulty of interpreting science to the layman and cf the application of research to practical problems. DR. SHILLING then introduced DR. TOTTER to make a presentation on the molecular effects of microorganisms on tissue culture. He spoke of radiation chemistry work being done and its relationship to biology. He emphasized particularly the difficulty in stimulating investigators to do any particular type MOLECULAR of work. Reference was made to the summaries of research EFFECTS activities at the molecular level given in report to the Advisory Committee and DR. TOTTER discussed each one separately. DR. DUNHAM emphasized the importance in attempting to stimulate different types of basic research. DR BURNETT pointed out the serious deficiency in water and electrolyte studies and suggested that an effort be made to direct those working in these fields to focus their attention more on radiation effects. DR. WARREN asked if there was work going on in the activation analysis Field as far as the trace metal components of large molecules are concerned. <A general discussion indicated that there was no evidence of much work in this area but that there was research work being done in trace metal activation analysis where interest might be stimulated in this particular area. DR. TOTTER reported that the work being done at Berkeley was not with metals.

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