r- A memo from a Major Rosen from the DMA Test Office to General Betts on 9 September_196] addresses a DoD study entitled " Case for Nuclear Testing'™ and doesn't really seem to think much of the study as far as being at all comprehensive or really saying very much. Among other things the study notes A 9September TWX from Betts to the Labs discusses the inputs from the DoD after seeing the AEC's proposed programs and lists in particular the effects test that the DoD proposes and a priority in which they would like to perform them. Further, the DoD lists in their shot list 4 devices which / they feel require proof or developmental tests which the AEC hadn't included in any of their lists and Betts asked for comments on these. The entire DoD Mae a menmceee the DoD's need for effects tests but doesn't make a very strong case for any justification for tests other than underground tests. Rosen goes on in his memo to list and discuss crucial problems in deciding whether testing should be done underground or in the atmosphere if there is a choice. Among other problems he discusses the time factor where atmospheric testing can probably do the same number of shots much more quickly than can underground testing, diagnostics where it is not known for certain if all the needed diagnostics can in fact be acquired by underground tests, costs where because of the time factor involved the lengthy underground series will cost a good deal more maybe a factor of several times more than atmospheric tests programs, and finally the yield limit on underground shots which would not exist for the same reasons for atmospheric or outer space shots. . ‘ , list contains 44 tests to be done in a two-year test period. In addition to the Foster and Bradbury replies requested by Betts on the Matter of atmospheric versus underground testing Hertford of ALO replies to Betts and concludes that given certain assumptions that he makes one or two atmospheric tests could be quickly staged at the ATS and accomplished without too much consideration for public opinion because of the attitude of the people in that area among other things. Both Foster and Bradbury by TWX's in the 10 days following the 9thof September request from Betts for information on the DoD shot list replied to Betts with their comments on the DoD's shots not included in previous Lor ; AEC proof and development requests. ALOO. ‘ Here is the 9 September 61 operations order for NOUGAT written by Jim Reeves of Qe —~ ° I believe we have it in other notes and it is #OLTO-Op0-11-61. ~ Among other . | things, it lists the organizational struc ture for conducting these underground tests oY Showing Reeves as the Test Manager, Kiley as his ililitary Deputy, Graves as Scien tific Advisor, Batzel as Alternate Scientific Advisor, and Nielsen, Qylc, andKodis as the three test group directors. 9 September | On the initiative of the U.S. and U.K., the Geneva talks recessed indefinitely to await the results of x