A 28Dec.memo from Col. Banks to Gen. Betts covers briefly some of the items discussed with Bill Ogle of LASL with Gen. Starbird present on 27 Dec. 61. The question of the availability of Jarvis Island was raised and it was pointed out that although this was presently being considered by the AEC and appeared to offer no problem to the Department of State, that actual approval had not yet been received. It was confirmed that only one shot, a surface shot, was planned for Jarvis. Ogle noted that so little is known of electromagnetic effects that LASL planned to make EM measurements on the surface shot at Jarvis. The status of negotiations /7 for Christmas Island was discussed with Ogle emphasizing that even if it could not be used for shots, it would be most helpful as a base for sampler aircraft. The limitation that no barge shots could be fired from Christmas Island was of considerable concern to Ogle,who pointed out that ships could be located as far as 10 miles from shore and that he was pretty confident that contamination would go out to sea and that other problems could be taken care of. In subsequent discussion after this meeting, Col. Anderson of DMA pointed out that barge shots would be permissible if conducted off shore so that the island contamination could be avoided. Dr. Ogle felt that it would be desirable for the U. S. Hydrographic people to measure the water currents around Christmas Island since such measurements had never been made. Ogle advised that there was a very real problem being encountered by the military in finding ships other than the CVS appropriate for airdrop support. The Joint Task Force, it was noted, has asked R27Shelton of LRL to put together a safety committee with representatives from the Vey different laboratories and DASA and other appropriate organizations to consider such problems as blast, fallout and tsunamis and be an advisory group to the JTF. Ogle asked about the likelihood of a surface test being authorized at NTS and Mr. Gale of DMA said that this looked as firm as any noting the Dr. Brown's letter to the President had given justification for both the two high altitude shots at Johnston and the surface shot at the NTS. Gale further discussed a number of items of funding and personnel hiring authorizations. . A of LASL December TWX from AFSWC to AFESD at Hanscom Field and to Westervelt was A 28 — y to inspect the KCI35 notes that Westervelt is going to Hanscom Field on 4 Januar tail Number 131 for suitability for LASL's use.

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