a r x. en . ' * et 2daf we eee OF. . . on y ‘ 4 .. emer 1\ ‘ tay L tos ‘ ~ . sg‘ ! i. % . . 4a . : !bey After some lengthy period of no discussion on the “subject of seismic testing, a briefing for the Commission was held which included Harold Brown and Roland Herbst on 28 Cctober 1960 which is extracted for our files. Meeting #1675, 23 November 1960: In a weapons briefing on the warhead for the Minuteman System, Starbird made a couple of interesting remarks as to testing policy. ‘In answer to a question by Commissioner Graham he pointed out that a safe and reliable warhead could be developed without testing; however, more flexibility of design would be provided if tests were possible. Ganeral Starbird said that in order to ensure an adequate warhead without testing it would be necessary to proceed with two possible designs. In response to Commissioner Olsen, General Starbird said it would roughly double the cost of the program to proceed with both designs. '' Meeting #1676, 2 December 1960: In a discussion of FY62 budget estimates, within the weapons program, it was noted that the Budget Bureau had suggested dollars for the VELA Program. reductionsof 10 million ''The AEC Staff deemed it appropriate to appeal this recommended reduction. General Starbird said if such a reduction was permitted, the deep shots and the D-coupling shots recommended by technicians in the seismic improvement program would be delayed considerably.'' 1 The Chairman and Commission agreed that they would appcal the 10 million dollar reduction. 114

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