Sf A 17 Noy. TWX from Wm. Lawrence of ALO to Bob Krohn of LASL discusses the definitions of various terms that have recently appeared but have not been officially defined. ALO's understanding, which seems to be as good as anybody's, is that Ivanhoe is an unclassified term identifying a continen- tal test series to follow Nougat after Feb. 1962 and would include only underground tests. Blue Straw identifies tests that may be conducted outside of the continental U.S. and it is stated here Blue Straw apparently includes and supersedes off-continent testing identified as Operation Eveready. JTF-8 is the task force which will accomplish the Blue Straw . objectives. A 17November_memo from Ogle to Bradbury and others at LASL details the Sandia/LASL meeting on atmospheric testing held 16 November. From Sandia were Schuster, Jim Scott, Charles Scott, Milligan, Kramm, Mehl, and Claassen. From LASL were J-Division personnel, Jim Koon and Stopinsi of H Division. CY Subjects discussed were: high altitude shots; telemetering of alpha on air drops, barge shots, and high altitude shots; telemetering “ee the 8 in. gun; the question of the drop case to be used for various devices, with Sandia preferring to use a 39 case for all air drops independent of the size of the device; Sandia capabilities for monitoring various device functions on air drops; Sandia preparations for either a ground borne or ship borne tracking system for both the drop plane and device; and questions about the balloon site at Christmas Island. A number of details on the first subject (high altitude shots) are worth mentioning. There are four pofnts of view from which such shots are interesting: 1. The possibility of using high altitude shots to measure the neutron flux distribution for the 50, 2. Checking out space testing techniques, in particular yield measurements by observation of x-ray flux _ 3. Checking out Vela Sierra and Vela Hotel methods of measuring .

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