~~ they must compete in the open environrent and you must in WwW Some way get your hands on them again so that all systers - saybecause, well, they didn't die in the first 90 days or ww 20 days or the first year or something, that there's no im- ont Dr. Warren’, let's see, 24 years ago, that, yes, we can do wow ON es to get an answer, but that's about where we are now, 10 12 have to be operative, | itn other words, you must not simply portance to it. this. So in doing this I have very naively told Well, I didn't realize that it would take me 24 years FREMONT-SMITH: afternoon and tell us what the answer is? 12 DONALDSON: 13 FREMONT -SMITH: 14 . 5 You're going to telephone tomorrow One step of the answer. But go ahead, Staff. to comment, WARREN: You were goin } I think this is very Significant and I 16 think a great deal of credit is owed to the AEC Division of 17 Medicine and Blology for continuing to support this work ove: 18 the years, 20-odd years, with such a2 small yield in return o 19 a few percentage of fish, that this has been maintained over 20 the years and you're now in what, 26 ns generations, watch er ought to be of interest to the geneticists here> from sou ¢ 22 the original exposures in 1943 or 4. 23 DONALDSON: 2k WARREN: 25 DONALDSON: 26 WARREN: Those are with trout in 1943. Those were with trout. Yes, But here has heen the longest, to my 27 knowledge, the longest single set of observations on one o: 28 more species of fish that have been exposed to relatively 29 small amounts of radiation, am I think this ought to be co: 30 tinued as long as it's necessary to get the final answers}; 31 I agree with Lauren. 32 look very spectacular and interesting and he's properly ne 33 in not claiming too much too early, He's got some initial answers which But I think this is Stafford Warren DOEIUCLA &G 2