?2 Wetll have to plant some cosmces in there, . Just observe what's there, As long as the dose levels are reasonably well known, and I'm not sure from the conversation whether they are really well known or peen normal within a factor of, say, one and a half, the total not. CONARD: I would think so, judging from the dose calculations and the hematological responses of the people, that we're not too far off, 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 AYRES: With a position of 50 per cent you ought to be all right, TAYLOR: ROOT: @ That's the trick, we Pea o Do people agree that the dose levels at Rongelap have dose? Oo @ ££ No, nw TAYLOR: NY Ww NH FPREMONT-SMITH: I would think that there would be a consider- able difference in the Rongelap mterial, too, than the Brazil because that would be cumulative and you would have no control from ground zero before they were exposed, whereas here you 19 would have the sudden exposure to whatever it was, 2300 rad 20 and would have your before-and-after picture. 21 think this would be terribly important material to have. 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 EISENBUD: So I would One problem that's cropped up in Brazil which hasn't been solved that might be pertinent here is the fact that it's hard to tell where these chromosomals cone from, You take a sample of a plant and it's easy to calculate the somatic dose because presumably the plant has been ‘there for its life, But what the dose is at the gene type of that plant is very hard to calculate because it goes back presum- 29 ably many thousands of years and maybe this plant care from 30 a seed which was dropped by a bird two months ago and picked 31 up ten miles away, 32 be true in Rongélap where your coconuts tend to drift around. 33 I don't know what the rean distance transversed by a cosmos And I suppose to some extent this would Stafford Warran DOE/UCLA 7%