taken place? What is the minimum study that will reveal the radiation experience? SONALDSSON: w Yo radiation had ww it would be worth while to study some of the pollen from the on I was talking to a botanist and he thought I believe, by chromosomal aberrations and this sort of thing that he could detect persisting radiation damage, and I would wo - CONARD: I don't know how to answer it. think that this would be a fairly simple study that could be 10 coconut trees on some of the island atolls and he thought, done, 1a MILLER: But it hasn't been” 12 CONARD: Maybe Schull might have something to add. SCHULL: You know, the Indians have done sorething 13 14 along this line in the palms associated with “Carilia and they 45 16 17 18 to talk about the genetic problem, you can approach this as 19 an either-or situation, 20 unique yardsticks of radiation damage and therefore you ulti- 21 mately are cast in the role of trying to show a dose depen- 22 dence and if you can't get variability in the doses that you 23 2% 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 do report a higher frequency of chromosoml abnormalities in the palm trees that grow in the strip than those that grow farther away, But it seems to re that when everyone begins There are, so far as we now know,no ean recognize, then you have no means to get at the problem. There's an observation here that I think is relevant to what Dr, Taylor, the question that he asked. 1951--I think it was probably 1950--Yimashita In 1950 or Cosko, who is a Japanese cytogenetist at Kyoto University did 2a fairly extensive study in Hiroshim on the distribution of abnorml forms of cosmos which is a little garden plant and they could show a definite correlation between the frequency of aberrant forms of this plant and distance from ground zero, So that it diminished as one went outward although the very things --TAYLOR: Just looking at people's gardens? taftord Warren STOEIUCLA J